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Post by chandlerklebs on Nov 23, 2014 18:05:24 GMT
The sad truth is that most parents don't have a clue what their kids are exposed to whether through school or through the media. Even if they did, there is little action they can take to stop it.
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Post by Jamie Soden on Nov 23, 2014 18:49:01 GMT
The sad truth is that most parents don't have a clue what their kids are exposed to whether through school or through the media. Even if they did, there is little action they can take to stop it. I'm not saying it's impossible for violent media to encourage crime, I'm saying the evidence for it is very weak at best. Humans have been violent for thousands of years, we've been destroying each other since before the marvels of modern technology like internet.
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Post by chandlerklebs on Nov 24, 2014 11:37:28 GMT
The sad truth is that most parents don't have a clue what their kids are exposed to whether through school or through the media. Even if they did, there is little action they can take to stop it. I'm not saying it's impossible for violent media to encourage crime, I'm saying the evidence for it is very weak at best. Humans have been violent for thousands of years, we've been destroying each other since before the marvels of modern technology like internet. True, I know that the media is violent because humans have been violent long before our modern media existed. That being said, the media can sustain the concept of violence and make it harder for a society to overcome it.
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Post by Jamie Soden on Nov 24, 2014 15:21:00 GMT
I'm not saying it's impossible for violent media to encourage crime, I'm saying the evidence for it is very weak at best. Humans have been violent for thousands of years, we've been destroying each other since before the marvels of modern technology like internet. True, I know that the media is violent because humans have been violent long before our modern media existed. That being said, the media can sustain the concept of violence and make it harder for a society to overcome it. You could make the case for mentally ill people to not be allowed to watch horror films or what not, but what falls under your definition of mental illness? then again with people who have normal functioning brains, violent media shouldn't affect them.
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Post by chandlerklebs on Nov 24, 2014 15:26:00 GMT
The subject of who is mentally ill or normal is a rather emotional subject. Since we don't choose normality or illness, we need not feel bad for how our brains work.
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Post by Jamie Soden on Nov 24, 2014 15:40:43 GMT
The subject of who is mentally ill or normal is a rather emotional subject. Since we don't choose normality or illness, we need not feel bad for how our brains work. The thing is how would you address the issue in regards to media violence? the gaming community do not like censorship neither do people who are into anime. These fandoms will continue for quite some time.
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Post by chandlerklebs on Nov 24, 2014 22:47:44 GMT
We need to find a way to point out what is wrong with violence. Maybe the violence in media will look insane to people as they lose the free will belief.
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Post by Jamie Soden on Nov 24, 2014 23:11:38 GMT
We need to find a way to point out what is wrong with violence. Maybe the violence in media will look insane to people as they lose the free will belief. Then you can look at the stories of retribution, like the movies with capital punishment in them or torture, sit back and and see how wrong our ideas were. In a later time when we knew that the only reason dangerous criminals behaved the way they did was because of faulty genetics (such as damaged areas of the brain that impede empathy and impulse control) and poor education or negative influences from society.
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Post by George Ortega on Nov 28, 2014 19:41:07 GMT
The problem with our viewing stories that contain violence is that, because we don't have a free will, those actions will simply perpetuate that kind of behavior. While there will be opposition on the grounds of freedom of speech, we need to recognize that both actions and speech can be very harmful to society, and just like we reign in certain actions for the common good, we will need to find a democratic way to reign in the kind of free speech that perpetuates belief in free will and the violence it causes.
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Post by Jamie Soden on Nov 28, 2014 21:17:52 GMT
The problem with our viewing stories that contain violence is that, because we don't have a free will, those actions will simply perpetuate that kind of behavior. While there will be opposition on the grounds of freedom of speech, we need to recognize that both actions and speech can be very harmful to society, and just like we reign in certain actions for the common good, we will need to find a democratic way to reign in the kind of free speech that perpetuates belief in free will and the violence it causes. Well you have the credibility to be saying these sorts of things because you've looked at individual cases, indeed free speech doesn't mean we should allow bad influences or bigotry. It can be said though one of the reasons it takes so long to get over the free will belief is because many of us don't live long enough to gain the life experience for critical thinking, some people die very young and plus when you look at other lifeforms that are smaller than us yet reach age 200 you really begin to realize just how incredibly short our lifespans are.
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Post by chandlerklebs on May 27, 2015 9:43:07 GMT
Our lifespans really are short. Looking at it in this way explains why people are ignorant of things that happened in the past that lead to their current beliefs.
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