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Post by trick on Dec 9, 2014 16:04:20 GMT
What I meant specifically was that conscious forms of life will exist forever even though our consciousness ends when we die. As far as plants or single cells being conscious, I don't yet know enough to rule out the possibility of that. Forever is a long time, considering the inevitable heat death of the universe, the amount of time life will be sustainable is limited. Regarding plants and single celled organisms, we know enough to conclude they aren't conscious (regardless of some pseudoscientific claims that are out there).
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Post by Jamie Soden on Dec 9, 2014 21:38:44 GMT
Memories are part of consciousness, and I don't see why no past lives is inconceivable? I think it's fairly evident that consciousness came about through an evolutionary process that didn't always exist - and that we can't equate our past or future evolutionary ancestors as being a past life of our own. Actually no, our memories are stored in the subconscious regions of our brain and after we die we will inevitably lose them forever, however that does not mean the particles that allowed our conscious mind will just vanish, how do you know none of us had past lives? you wont remember them and that is self evident.
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Post by Jamie Soden on Dec 9, 2014 21:46:55 GMT
What I meant specifically was that conscious forms of life will exist forever even though our consciousness ends when we die. As far as plants or single cells being conscious, I don't yet know enough to rule out the possibility of that. As far as our current science tells us, in order for an organism to be conscious it must have a complex nervous system that is not present in single celled organisms or plants. Self awareness is definitely related to complex neuron networks, that may change when the AI experts catch on.
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Post by trick on Dec 10, 2014 16:59:53 GMT
No, that is stored memory - memory accounts for both storage and retrieval as well (in which consciousness play a part of both the placement into storage and the retrieval afterward). I agree we lose memory forever, and that the particles that once made up us will still be around in some other (most likely non-sentient) form.
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Post by Jamie Soden on Dec 10, 2014 18:12:49 GMT
No, that is stored memory - memory accounts for both storage and retrieval as well (in which consciousness play a part of both the placement into storage and the retrieval afterward). I agree we lose memory forever, and that the particles that once made up us will still be around in some other (most likely non-sentient) form. True, well when the universe ends we have no idea what happens afterwards, there are all sorts of theories on how it will end, one is that all stars will die then matter including the material trapped in black holes would just float in darkness for the rest of time, due to laws of entropy however matter decays or breaks down, so not even BH's last forever. The dark energy hypothesis means the universe will keep expanding until everything rips itself apart, then you have the theory of the false vacuum state where a change in energy state starts a new big bang within our existing universe, effectively rewriting the contents, our solar system, galaxies etc would be wiped out.
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Post by chandlerklebs on Dec 11, 2014 12:00:52 GMT
What is this stuff about the heat death of the universe and everything being ripped apart? This is new stuff I haven't heard of before this forum.
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Post by trick on Dec 11, 2014 18:00:14 GMT
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Post by laffx on Dec 11, 2014 20:19:30 GMT
Big rip, eh? Would hate to smell the effects of that event.
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Post by trick on Dec 11, 2014 21:42:01 GMT
Big rip, eh? Would hate to smell the effects of that event. LOL...no...it can't be! :-)
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